Curse

scotchild · Jul 16, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

Hey guy
Once again I only have Prophecies.
I really like the necro line, I just cant find a build I like. I dont like minion builds. I just want something quick and simple, preferably a blood build. I would like to have a damaging char that can take some too. Your help is appreciated and may all you necros suck blood or kill things or whatever you do. Rock on

theonetheonlybruce · Jul 16, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

um [ss] only thing i can think of or maybe some form of [life transfer] with other degen skill

Ralan The Great · Jul 16, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Here is a solid blood build I used in my days of only owning Prophesies. I don't know how to use the editor to make the skills show up so here is the code for the build.

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I hope that helps. Sorry I can't figure out the skill images. The build centers around health pips and life stealing. Start by using Awaken the Blood to add a little extra punch. Then make sure you always have Life Siphon on something (for the extra 3-4 pips of health) and use your life steal skills at will. Life Transfer is for when you need a lot of health regen or when you need to kill bosses quicker. Well of Blood is great when you are with heroes/henchies and are fighting large mobs. Good Luck.

N1ghtstalker · Jul 16, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

[well of power]
[feast of corruption] + [suffering] = good
just a few elites that are nice
you can also find some use for [blood is power] maybe

SirNazron · Jul 16, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Ralan, here you go.
[Ralan Build;OABCQsxQbZaGn+9GXCA]

Accursed · Jul 17, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22

[spiteful spirit] [feast of corruption] [life transfer] [blood is power]
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These are pretty much all the elites you could use in prophecies.

Tyla · Jul 17, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

[order of pain][dark fury][well of power][blood renewal][protective spirit][aegis][convert hexes][resurrection signet]

Maybe you can take Convert and Aegis out for some direct damage Blood Magic skills, but that skill line is kinda sub-par outside of Order of Pain and Dark Fury.

If you're not completely firm on Blood Magic, I suggest the following:

[spiteful spirit][enfeebling blood][barbs][desecrate enchantments][insidious parasite][draw conditions][plague sending][resurrection signet]

Maybe it can be tweaked but whatever.

Age · Jul 17, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

[lingering curse]aswell or [tainted flesh]................

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 17, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

[skill]Aura of the Lich[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Horror[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Taste of Death[/skill][skill]Enfeebling Blood[/skill]

If you're the lazy type, you can take out Nova + Taste. If you do decide to use those well though, it can easily outdamage SS. The 2 best things Curses have is Enfeebling Blood and Barbs. I wouldn't use Barbs in this build though - need to spec into it pretty high for it to be useful. Enfeebling Blood works well at a low rank. For the last 2 skills, add a Res and somethin else...

Cebe · Jul 17, 2008, 10:53 AM // 10:53

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Originally Posted by scotchild

Hey guy
Once again I only have Prophecies.
I really like the necro line, I just cant find a build I like. I dont like minion builds. I just want something quick and simple, preferably a blood build. I would like to have a damaging char that can take some too. Your help is appreciated and may all you necros suck blood or kill things or whatever you do. Rock on

How far through the game are you? If you've got minimal skills unlocked on the account and little or no access to elite skills then we can't be of much help until you play through a bit I think.

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Originally Posted by Tyla

[spiteful spirit][enfeebling blood][barbs][desecrate enchantments][insidious parasite][draw conditions][plague sending][resurrection signet]

Maybe it can be tweaked but whatever.

For a solid, easy to use build, I'd go with the above, but using a Hard Res instead of the signet.

Moloch Vein · Jul 17, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Please do not use any of the trash elites mentioned in this thread. You have only got Prophecies and there is only one decent elite for you, Spiteful Spirit. Use that. Do not use Draw Conditions/Plague Sending combo, it looks neat but in effect it will only confuse you.

Please, people... don't tell newbie necromancers that running Life Transfer in PvE is a good idea... or Well of Power.

Finishing off... THIS IS GENERAL ADVICE ONLY.

Calista Blackblood · Jul 17, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

blood magic is a waste of time,not even worth fiddling with.tyla's [spiteful spirit] build is pretty much spot on,thats all core skills or prophecies only and is more than effective

stay away from blood and gl

Tyla · Jul 17, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by Moloch

Do not use Draw Conditions/Plague Sending combo, it looks neat but in effect it will only confuse you.

Getting past these phases is good. Draw Condi / Plague Sending is a non-elite offensive RC that is kinda like Foul Feast / Plague Sending.

scotchild · Jul 18, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Hey tyla I like your build as does every one but ive seen a lot of methods on how to use it. could you show me yours?

Tyla · Jul 18, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04

No pun intended, but I didn't really understand that much; I'm assuming you mean the usage of the build.

Basically...

SS on anything that moves, preferably faster hitting enemies.

Enfeebling Blood on the most dangerous and damage dealing enemy you see.

Draw / Plague conditions off your party.

Barbs on anything getting hit by physical attackers. You're best off buying a perfect caster spear for it. (+5E, +30hp mods)

Insidious Parasite on anything that attacks; it's mainly for the damage but the healing is a nice bit.

Defile Enchantments is basically more of a nuke skill. Smash the skill on enemies that your party is focusing on.

Moloch Vein · Jul 18, 2008, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Getting past these phases is good. Draw Condi / Plague Sending is a non-elite offensive RC that is kinda like Foul Feast / Plague Sending.

Sure, it's good to get past those phases, but... two things...

One, he only owns one campaign and he's clearly not too experienced. Asking him to target-switch enemy/ally without mupping it up is probably not best.

Two, you devote two slots to a combination that will only be useful if your party encounters conditions that pose a problem... and this is Prophecies NM, not exactly rocket science...

All in all I'd prefer giving him a straight attacker curses build.

Turbobusa · Jul 18, 2008, 11:58 AM // 11:58

MMing with AotL is always fun and easy

Tyla · Jul 18, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

One, he only owns one campaign and he's clearly not too experienced. Asking him to target-switch enemy/ally without mupping it up is probably not best.

The margin of failure possible in PvE is minimal, and you are forgiven for even huge mistakes. If you're new and you aim to become better you should be doing things like this.

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Two, you devote two slots to a combination that will only be useful if your party encounters conditions that pose a problem... and this is Prophecies NM, not exactly rocket science...

No conditions = awesome. Just because it's Prophecies NM doesn't have anything to do with your skill level, and it's best to improve as much as you can. Especially those icky deep wounds, cripples, blinds and such. Besides, it's also offensive and it's not exactly like you're going to get some Ranger D-Shot your Plague Sending, is it? Give those enemies the conditions.

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All in all I'd prefer giving him a straight attacker curses build.

Then why didn't you add something to that yourself by saying what you'd replace those two skills with?

Moloch Vein · Jul 18, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I've posted so many builds in threads like this and I was lazy.

Fine, fine...

[build prof=n/me curses=12+1+3 soulr=12+1 domin=3][spiteful spirit][mark of pain][barbs][insidious parasite][enfeebling blood][rend enchantments][cry of frustration][resurrection signet][/build]

That's what I feel a newbie curser should be comfortable doing... hexing, popping out an interrupt once in a while if needed, and stripping enchantments if he noticed the little "up" arrow on the enemy bar and his hexes have no effect.

If you need a cover hex on the bar, add Suffering or Parasitic Bond in place of, eh, Resurrection Signet.

Age · Jul 19, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

I would say that blood battery Necros can be very usefull in some hard missions.BiP is very usefull in Urgoz.